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Friday, December 01, 2006

Understanding (filter cont.)

Diogo
...in many cases you don't have the time or even the relationship with some people to request clarification...
Suzy
Sometimes you might have the time and the relationship but the you still cant put it across. Sometimes there is practically no way...
Heb. 5:12a(Contemporary English Version)
By now you should have been teachers, but once again you need to be taught the simplest things...


In no highschool kid way is this question meant. Have you ever wanted to know the honest truth of how you came across? Not asking someone simply "what do you think of me". But to know the how and therefore the why that you came across that certain way to them at that time? Of course really this is impossible for the most part. Like Suzy said, sometimes you have what Diogo longed for, what is necessary for this conversation to really start in earnest and yet still there is some seemingly "hidden" thought process that the other person cannot see that they are employing. Something that seems so clear to you to exist. I have known some that when pushed, sink inside a cave of quick (and easily noticed and deflected) denial. But once in that "cave" they will not be prodded to come out without attacking and sadly now the one who pushed believes that they were correct about their assumptions of hidden motives or thoughts. (Even if only hidden from the person showing them) And they are thinking the same thing really back. It gets almost scary as Diogo said earlier if you get what I am saying.

Edit: It's always good to keep Many times keeping it in your head that we are all learning. is good. As long as that isn't always a crutch to say to yourself that it's still the OTHER person who really needs to learn.

I went back and tried to expand what it was that I meant here in this post. To make sure I got across my current thoughts on this. And this isn't some insider conversation between friends nor technically speaking a reaction to something going on in my life. It's meant positively, its focus is for me and therefore also for others to grow. (Who want to of course...) Comments from others who have thought about these issues would be awesome. It's something I have spent some time in this life wondering about.

6 Comments:

  • At 02 December, 2006 00:31, Blogger kristin said…

    it can be painfully disillusioning to find out when you think you have a handle on something, to find out what you thought you were putting out there is so not gotten. as a person who is sometimes even too open, who pretty much always has her heart on her sleeve, who cares a lot about people understanding her, and who even started a blog to really show who she was at a time of extreme growth and change in her life; I can really identify some things you're talking about.

    the hardest thing is to balance those hurt feelings is to recognize that those who tend to think badly of you despite your, i guess, honest to goodness efforts to forge relationships, are not actually who you thought they were either.

    this is maybe the other side of the coin you're discussing here. but it's the side facing me as I read the post...

     
  • At 02 December, 2006 00:39, Blogger kristin said…

    ...otherwise you're left with all the self doubt --- maybe I am not who I thought I am.

     
  • At 02 December, 2006 01:43, Blogger diogo said…

    Good post, I hate not being about to find a solution to a problem.
    For any one reading this post.
    "Filter are a difficult problem to get around", anyone have technics, hints, suggestion, or experiences they could share.

     
  • At 02 December, 2006 14:00, Blogger Suzy said…

    I find that analyzing ppl's filter is quite advantageous, bc then you begin to know how to present something to them in what i would call their "language". And you both gain from it, then again it can be argued that both people need to see each other's filter but when do people really take time to think or even discuss this type of thing? Well we're nerds lol tahts why were going on but I am sure to a lot of people this is just random thoughts.

     
  • At 03 December, 2006 00:35, Blogger diogo said…

    Filters or pre-conceived notions.
    Picture a beautiful blond, wearing a skimpy evening dress on her way to a club. High heels, make-up and hair all done up. How does the filter in your mind imagine this woman? This would probably affect how you would approach her and what you would say. Her are a couple of options. Slut or tease, mom on her once a year outing with her girl friends, or PHD.

    Not only do filters effect how we understand what others verbally say to us and how we interpret them but also visual and or environmental as well.

     
  • At 03 December, 2006 23:48, Blogger Krupo said…

    There's a book by some consummate networker called "One Phonecall Away" - get it at TPL. He talks about how people perceive you - reminds me of your post. Check it out. :)

     

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